Notes on Oct 30 Special Board Meeting

This post is going to “summarize” Board comments then provide analysis and comments to our 600+ (and growing) subscribers. As always if there are any inaccuracies, please let us know and we will correct them.

Full video meeting can be viewed HERE (this was recorded by an MCA Homeowner).

First of all, a few positives:

  1. The Board sent notice of the Oct 30 meeting to MCA Homeowners via Constant Contact.
  2. The Board offered the meeting via Zoom. As a result, 120 MCA Homeowners were able to “attend” virtually (the room was at capacity with an estimated 160 persons).
  3. A Board member spoke passionately about the need for increased transparency to both Board members and MCA Homeowners (LINK to that portion of the meeting video).

We truly hope the MCA continues with email notifications, Zoom options and increases transparency overall. More clear information will allow us all to understand and focus on the problems rather than trying to fight through obtaining information and dealing with half-truths and inaccurate information.

Unfortunately, we still need to keep dealing with half-truths and inaccurate information but at least we now have a forum to do so through this blog. So, let’s get into it.

The Chair stated the Board has confirmed with their bankers and legal counsel to confirm MCA can legally lend to TMCC. Good that they’ve confirmed but with the low trust level please provide specific sections in MCA by-laws or Florida statutes. Referencing the dog’s breakfast of the 48 original documents and amendments that make up the MCA Master Documents (not searchable fo rkeywords) and saying “you can look it up” is not helpful at all when you claim to have the precise answers from legal counsel.

Treasurer indicated TMCC was behind budget after the prime part of their season (Jan – April) but has been hit hard in lost golf and hospitality by the three hurricanes experienced recently (Debbie, Helene and Milton).  

The Treasurer states that TMCC cannot obtain a loan like other business because MCA’s lease with TMCC prohibits it. We don’t yet have a copy of the new lease, so we can’t say for sure what it says, but that is likely not an accurate characterization as the 2021-24 lease stated:

15. C.   The Club shall not acquire any debt beyond those expenses and accounts payable that are ordinarily and customarily incurred in doing business without first obtaining written permission from the MCA. This includes loans from financial institutions, vendors or other parties. The Club may make intra club cash management arrangement with members to facilitate operational requirements provided such arrangements in no way impair the rights of the MCA nor its claim on an property or revenues of the Club.

At TMCC’s 2024 Annual Meeting the TMCC stated: “The club has no ability to raise capital and no borrowing ability other than from capital leases and finance agreements, so any reduction in deficits has to be derived from its membership”.

TMCC’s statement more accurately reflects the situation. No lender would loan TMCC money as they have no assets to back the loan and a history of poor financial results. Why not just say that? Probably because it acknowledges that no rational lender would be confident of repayment.

The Treasurer then summarized the proposed terms of the loan:

  • $250,000 loan @ 5% interest. Total interest would be about $5,000.
  • $100,000 repaid in February
  • $100,000 repaid in March
  • $50,000 repaid in April
  • 5% penalty for late payment (= $12,500)

The Treasurer then states that the Board has 2 choices:

  1. Loan TMCC $250,000
  2. Let TMCC “cease to exist” and have “MCA take over all operations in a week or two”.

#2 may be the best option (as we’ve documented in many posts) but it has to be done in an organized, thoughtful, well-planned approach. Taking all operations over in “a week or two” is clearly not a viable option even though the Treasurer exaggerates it as a doomsday scenario where there would be no golfing revenue going forward.

The Treasurer recommends #1 and we “stay with them (TMCC), monitor the situation, and craft a business plan”.

Later in the meeting when an MCA Homeowner asked about the urgency of the situation, the Chair replied that it was necessary to meet payroll now and for the rest of the year.

The Treasurer accurately states that TMCC has substantial cashflow inflow from operations in the Jan-Apr period and will have cash to repay the loan. That is true, but this completely ignores that the repayment of the loan will immediately put TMCC back into the same cash crunch. In TMCC’s 2024 Annual Meeting handout, the Treasurer’s report on pages 6 & 7 they clearly state that TMCC accumulates cash in the first 4 months to cover shortfalls over the remainder of the year. Does anyone really believe that TMCC will generate an extra $250,000 of additional profit over the previous year to have extra cash to pay off the loan without affecting their viability? We don’t believe it and the Board shouldn’t either. So, if TMCC repays the loan they will be right back in the same situation of being short of cash with nowhere to go other than MCA Homeowners.

What if another unexpected event happens that results in large unexpected expenses (the number of hurricanes going forward is going to increase), or, as the Treasurer pointed out about last year, the weather in January and February of this season is as bad as it was last year and golf revenues are way down again?

Will TMCC even repay the loan? What happens if TMCC don’t make the repayments? They’ll continue to accrue interest at a ludicrously low rate of 5% for the high credit risk. They’ll accrue a non-payment penalty. But what other consequences are there of non-payment? There is virtually no downside to not repaying it. The Treasurer and Chair can keep saying it is a loan not a gift, but it is clear that it is unlikely to be repaid (at best) without another loan being required a short period of time later. It will be the first step in a perpetual cycle.

Ultimately the Board chose to “table” the motion (not vote on it at this meeting) so that they would have some time to further consider the loan and its terms.

So, what do we propose? We’ve had only 48 hours to think about it, but the situation has some urgency, so here are our thoughts:

  1. Any loan has to be accompanied by a serious effort to figure out a different approach for MCA to utilize its golf/tennis/fitness/dining facilities. MCA has to finally take ownership and responsibility for managing the assets it purchased in 2018. TMCC has had every chance over 6+ years (and a decade before that) to figure out how to operate as a private club and has not been able to do it. Stop hoping TMCC will figure it out. More on this below.
  2. Any default on monthly interest or loan repayments causes the lease to immediately revert to a month-to-month basis. This will allow the operation to continue AND give MCA the appropriate flexibility to move to a different approach when they are ready to do so. If the current lease does end in Dec 2025 (we haven’t seen a copy of the lease yet), that frankly isn’t a lot of time to figure out a new plan and implement it.
  3. Manage the risk of TMCC spending the loan on something other than payroll by structuring the loan to fund payroll each month to a maximum of $250,000. This may reduce MCA’s risks and will reduce TMCC’s interest cost. This recommendation assumes that the reason given for the loan to MCA Homeowners is factual.

Some of the MCA Homeowners who indicated they have banking expertise may have some additional ideas. Please add them in the comments below.

Developing a VIABLE plan for MCA’s assets

This must be about MCA making a plan to utilize its golf/tennis/fitness/dining facilities for the optimal benefit of MCA Homeowners. We need to move past trying to help or fix TMCC. TMCC has been unsuccessful for more than a decade. Fixing it is not a viable solution or it would have worked already (demand for golf is at a VERY high level since 2020). The Treasurer referred to the loan giving MCA 5/6/7 months to figure out a plan. We agree with that aspect and he asked for input. Here is what has to happen.  

  1. Hire a professional golf industry advisor such as National Golf Foundation. The Treasurer referred to “tweaking” TMCC’s business plan and asked for ideas from MCA Homeowners. That isn’t going to get us to the significantly different approach that we need to keep MCA’s golf courses in business. We need EXPERTS in the golf industry with knowledge and credibility.
  2. Get professional advice from experts on golf club dining/clubhouse facilities BEFORE we spend $3.6 million to update the clubhouse (mentioned at the Oct 22 Board meeting). It is our understanding that the industry has moved away from large banquet facilities, but get expert advice. If a country club isn’t viable, don’t rebuild country club style facilities.
  3. Start this process NOW. After giving TMCC 3 years of grace from 2018 to 2021, we’re now in our fourth year of MCA Board ignoring the problem to avoid taking responsibility for managing MCA’s assets. Deferring responsibility to TMCC hasn’t been working and is not going to cut it anymore.
  4. Golf course memberships are generally good for golf courses. We want to have MCA Homeowners as members. But we will not be able to continue the private club lifestyle of current TMCC members. TMCC cannot dictate or excessively influence the direction that MCA chooses for the ongoing business plan for MCA’s assets.

Almost all of these comments refer to the golf courses. Based on the information available to us the tennis club is likely profitable, in which case it would not require significant change.

We’re sure it must be heart-breaking for TMCC members who have enjoyed their club for decades to see it go downhill. We know they love their club, but that isn’t enough to make it successful. If they aren’t willing or able to pay the FULL cost of having a private club, they cannot expect the 90% of MCA Homeowners who aren’t club members to make up the difference. It’s just that simple. It has been a long spiral downwards. It has to come to an end before the facilities are allowed to further degrade.

One more transparency comment: We’ve noted this many times and wish we didn’t have to. One of the MCA Homeowners noted this in the meeting as well. From 2020 to 2023 MCA paid TMCC $600,000 per year for the Renaissance Access Fee(subsidy). Within the last 12 months, the payment was restructured so that MCA paid about $440,000 of property taxes and insurance related to the facilities leased to TMCC (and required to be paid by TMCC under the terms of the past leases), and TMCC only paid the net amount of approximately $160,000. The Chair continues to mislead MCA Homeowners by claiming that the Renaissance Access Fee(subsidy) has been reduced to $160,000. We are still paying $600,000 in total. STOP WITH THIS BLATANTLY MISLEADING STATEMENT. BE TRANSPARENT AND HONEST.

We strongly support the sentiment of Board member Mark Pienkos who passionately spoke for more transparency. It may feel like a difficult change but it is necessary if the community is going to work together to find a solution to keep our golf courses viable.

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20 responses to “Notes on Oct 30 Special Board Meeting”

  1. edwardzawacki7 Avatar
    edwardzawacki7

    once again….clear, concise information and recommendations…Many Thanks!.

    since the board has asked for input and suggestions( I believe Stan did in the meeting), has this response been made available to them?

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      Many of the Board members are subscribers to the blog. The Treasurer is not a subscriber but we are confident he is aware of it.

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  2. A. Wayne Miller Avatar
    A. Wayne Miller

    As someone who spends only six months in the Meadows each year, I appreciate that there are those there who are willing to fight for our rights, and appreciate these emails keeping us informed. The MCA board has functioned for too long in the dark with sweetheart deals being made at will. Time for that to end.

    In the short term, TMCC could be a great help in all of this if they would simply open their precious golf course to the public, selling many of those unused T-times. I’m sure they all could survive a nonmember walking on their fairways and greens. After all, that’s what must eventually happen.

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  3. samazepm Avatar
    samazepm

    The obvious answer is to change it to a semi private model and open everything up to the public. You can still have memberships that vary to fit the lifestyles of the modern world. You can also offer range memberships which Legacy did and generated 50,000 per month in revenue just from the range believe it or not. Even though the tennis is doing well, we should still open that to the public as well. This old-fashioned model doesn’t Work anymore because the real private clubs are extremely expensive and offer so much more. We just can’t be competitive. Golf is in demand and the pricing has gotten out of control. We could easily be very competitive. And when we become profitable, we can put money back into the golf courses to improve them because conditions are not great.

    As for the loan, I think it would be insane to lend them any money at all.

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    1. inspiringdfa1f87109 Avatar
      inspiringdfa1f87109

      I made these comments under another thread, but I think they apply to your suggestion of opening up the MCC to the public:

      I completely agree that the MCC is not well managed now and could do better. However, keep in mind that it is right across the street from a newly refurbished public club, (Bobby Jones), which has better greens, better fairways, better tees, which is EXEMPT FROM TAXES, and which, by definition, does not even need to run at a profit.

      No matter how well the MCC is managed, it is tough to compete with that!

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      1. Website Admin Avatar

        TMCC has always been a not for profit so it doesn’t pay taxes either (if they made a profit).

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  4. lisi5f0a56d8f76 Avatar
    lisi5f0a56d8f76

    great blog…thank you

    has anyone gotten any information from the country club management? Why don’t they raise dues? Why don’t they fund raise? Why don’t they do anything? And I agree banquet style country clubs have gone away… There’s much more constructive use that can be done with that space. I have suggested in another comment to pull together all their catering facilities and set up a small bar light bite area where the carts come in so that, that will generate revenue

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      For a number of years TMCC has guarded its financial information even from its members who were (in emails from TMCC) told that even discussion the financial affairs of the club was discouraged. We’ve only found out details through their Form 990’s which unfortunately aren’t a timely info source.

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  5. Warren Edwards Avatar
    Warren Edwards

    pretty obvious this model hasn’t/won’t work. Lots of options for professional golf management companies that would look at the situation and provide an assessment as to how they’d fix it. Club Corp, Concert Golf, Troon Golf just a few. What would be the objection to getting this kind of an objective, outside look?

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  6. DEL Avatar
    DEL

    It was noted that the “loan” was needed for TMCC payroll.

    l thought Icon/Troon is the management company for the country club. As such, would not Icon/Troon be responsible for employee hiring, payroll, taxes and benefits?

    Who issues the employees W2’s .. Icon/Troon or the TMCC?

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      TMCC financial information is only provided to TMCC Board members and 2 MCA Board Members (Chair and Treasurer). The Chair stated that it was to cover payroll and that is the only information we (and the other MCA Board members) were provided when an MCA Homeowner asked if there was urgency to the matter.

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      1. jgg Avatar
        jgg

        The best plan is to shut it down and make it a nature park. Everyone talks about green space that what it would become and use the $600,000 that is now being given to the club to cut the grass and pay taxes. Remember if all the buildings are shut and closed, it would would be taxed as a green space.

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      2. DEL Avatar
        DEL

        Not transparent at all, no wonder the homeowners are so frustrated.

        On the Troon website to join THEIR team, lists a job for:

        Line Cook:

        Oct 14, 2024

        Job Category: Food & Beverage

        Requisition Number: COOK0019910

        Schedule: Full TimeThe Meadows Country ClubSarasota, FL 34235, USA

        One wonders who is overseeing this sinking ship??

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  7. Leon Miller Avatar
    Leon Miller

    Unsold golf course tee times are like empty seats on an airplane. TMCC course has many unsold tee times. At the very minimum, they should open reservations to MCA homeowners and also to the public 3 days in advance. They could add $100,000 to $150,000 of revenue January through March, maybe more. As long as the MCA is their sugar daddy, there is no incentive to be creative.

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    1. lisi5f0a56d8f76 Avatar
      lisi5f0a56d8f76

      Did you know as a Renaissance member you can play golf at TMCC on

      the third Saturday of the month

      only after 12 noon

      this is what my grandmother used to say was “cutting their nose to spite their face”

      another reply in this thread was right… Open it up to all the homeowners here in The Meadows… That would generate a lot of money!

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      1. Website Admin Avatar

        It’s almost like they made the access as insulting and trivial as possible, right?
        TMCC has had more than a decade to figure it out as a private club, even when they get the assets for free AND $600k for MCA Homeowner access that costs them nothing. They haven’t been able to. Time to move on.

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  8. templesyracuse Avatar
    templesyracuse

    Thank you so much for looking out for us Karen & John Bloomfield

    Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

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  9. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Has anyone done a break even analysis of TMCC? What does a realistic budget look like? Most importantly, i would love to see a realistic rolling one year cash flows statement. And If the members “love” their club so much why aren’t they charged a dues amount that is truly reflective of the membership cost? A normal club would not be dependent upon anyone other than the members to sustain it. I’ve never heard of a club that cannot go to a bank for a bridge loan if that is truly what is needed. This club just happens to sit within the Meadows where most homeowners are not members. They hold the threat over our heads that the land will have to be sold to developers if the club died. This relationship between the club and MCA was set up to be in this situation. It was set up to fail and put the burden on unsuspecting non members. Most don’t even want a Renaissance membership which was set up purposefully to subsidize the club while masquerading it as a benefit to non members. We really need to see the books of the club to see how to rectify this situation. Obviously other revenue sources need to be explored. Maybe it’s partially an expense issue ie are overheads too high? What is insurance coverage like, no one has mentioned if TMCC carries business interruption or property insurances and if so how much? The MCA should have the right to “audit” the books of TMCC to answer these questions and more before proceeding with any funding.

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