Conflict of Interest Legal Opinion

The issue of whether Directors who are members of The Meadows Country Club have a conflict of interest (COI) on issues related to TMCC has come up a number of times in the last year. Current and past MCA Presidents hav noted that the MCA has a legal opinion stating these Directors do not have a COI, but it is fair to say that many MCA Homeowners haven’t been fully satisfied by this. Conflict of Interest can definitely be a complex and nuanced issue, and is always based on the particulars of a situation.

Over the next few months the MCA Board will be making some very important decisions that will affect TMCC. And after the upcoming election at least four Directors will be TMCC members (possibly as many as six). It is really important that MCA Homeowners have confidence in the decisions and their validity (whether they agree with the decisions or not).
That means having confidence in our Conflict Of Interest situation.

We won’t wade deeply into the legal waters, but we have some observations and a recommendation that would increase community confidence that that the MCA Board is proceeding with transparency and honesty. On to the issue at hand…..

This is the legal opinion that is regularly referred to (received by a homeowner through a Records Inspection request):
MCA Attorney Letter COI issue Nov 16 2017

Below are the purpose and the recommendation from that MCA Attorney Letter (excerpts are provided below verbatim).


Preamble: “The purpose of this letter is to provide advice to the Board pertaining to the member position that Board members owning an equity interest in the Meadows Country Club (Club) should not vote on material issues pertaining to the Club”

Recommendations

Please provide additional facts concerning the equity Club interests. It would be helpful to know how much each director paid for their equity interest, the benefits of the interest, the current value of the interest, and a projected value of the interest if the Club finances are turned around or the Club property sold.

If the equity interest is nominal in value, one solution might be for at least a majority of the Board to divest themselves of the equity interest and eliminate the conflict of interest.

Another solution would be to make any contract or transaction contingent on subsequent approval by a majority of the total voting interests of the membership at a duly notice membership meeting or via written consents in lieu of a meeting.”


Our Takeaways

We’ve had a couple of retired lawyers do a brief review of the opinion and both acknowledge it is a reasonable opinion based on the circumstances and facts provided (without looking into the cases cited).

Per the preamble, this legal opinion was on a very specific set of circumstances that are no longer at issue. At that time the Directors held equity shares with minimal value. Today the TMCC member Directors benefit as members from MCA’s significant ongoing subsidization of TMCC

The lawyer’s request for additional facts implies that the amount of benefit received are relevant facts. As the MCA did not provide subsequent correspondence with the lawyer, we are left to conclude that the MCA did not provide the additional facts requested. (perhaps justified by the action below)

The equity interest of the 8 MCA Directors (or their spouse) in TMCC did only have nominal value, so they followed the second recommendation by divesting of their shares in TMCC. This followed one of the lawyer’s recommendations and effectively resolved this specific issue.

Today’s situation is very different. TMCC members, including some MCA Directors, have benefited significantly over the last 7 years from MCA subsidization including 7 years of free/low-cost leases, Renaissance Access Plan fee, MCA paying TMCC operating expenses, and the recent short term loan.

The lawyer was clearly not asked to opine on whether TMCC member Directors have a conflict of interest in today’s situation.

MCA Homeowners need a new legal opinion based on today’s situation, with a full disclosure of all relevant facts to their lawyer (our articles on the size of the subsidy and how few benefit from it would be a good starting point). As it is of significant interest to the community, and some controversy, the MCA would be wise to make this a very transparent process.

As it is now clear that the existing opinion is not relevant to the current situation, MCA Directors who are TMCC members should recuse from voting, or having a disproportional committee voice, on TMCC related matters until we have an opinion on the matter. As the lawyer advises on page 4: “Although I currently have no details about the nature and extent of the equity ownership in the Club, the Board should proceed cautiously”.

The sooner MCA Homeowners have a relevant legal opinion, the sooner we can all have comfort and confidence in any TMCC related decisions. The Board can act on this immediately and we encourage them to do so. Let’s get it done.

Please share this with your friends and neighbors.
You can contact us at ForTheMeadows@SarasotaMeadows.com


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17 responses to “Conflict of Interest Legal Opinion”

  1. David Moore Avatar
    David Moore

    definitely agree that it appears to be a conflict of interest whether the legal folks agree or not. How can someone with an interest in TMCC not have a conflict of interest when making decisions that affect TMCC?

    Even if one were to consider the Renaissance Plan the equivalent of giving every MCA resident an LA Fitness membership, the numbers still don’t reconcile with the ownership and leasing of the assets.

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  2. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Totally agreed that it is a conflict of interest. Just one of the many issues here. Oh and by the way my wife and I did not ask for the Ren Plan yet we cannot opt out so are forced to subsidize MCC, not right. We did not want to belong to a CC, that’s one of the reasons we close to live here. Any other CC would raise their dues from the members or seek other revenue streams to exist. Here, all MCA homeowners are forced to subsidize under the threat of selling the land to developers. That doesn’t have to happen as golfing demand is high, their model simply doesn’t work and management cannot be up to par if the MCC comes looking for a loan. Could go on and on….an independent audit is neede

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  3. almost6b96f02c10 Avatar
    almost6b96f02c10

    My comment is this: Do we need the MCC? It has cost us, the MCA, thousands of dollars over the past number of ears plus taking on debt plus cost of interest, to continue a failing Country Club. It is time to cut loose. The MCC needs to shut down. We can hire, as do they, someone to manage the golf courses. The MCC restaurant is no longer needed, unless the MCA wants to get into the restaurant business. I think not. We are already pushed into the golf business, no need for the restaurant scene. These problems have been created by the MCC and we, the MCA have bailed them out. Time to stop this expense and nonsense.Get realistic. The MCC is a loser moneywise and the MCA does not need this continuing problem. Witness the latest $250,000 temporary loan at 5% to cover the MCA’s short term problem. Even though backed by several MCC members, hope we get the money back on time. No bank or lending institution would ever touch this. What kind of MCA Board of Directors in their right mind would make that loan. Looking forward, with this kind of MCA Board, I am frightened that they will put us more in debt with the MCC Restaurant problem. That is a biggie. Thank you for letting us know the latest on what is happening. The MCA does not seem to care. Mike Garvey

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  4. Joe Adamaitis Avatar

    will common sense ever set in?

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      MCA Homeowners can have their say in the upcoming election. Make your vote(s) count.

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      1. lhaynesh2 Avatar
        1. Just received my current Meadow Word. The annual assessments were mailed out in January, they state. Way latter than normal and we have not received ours yet. May be a big surprise in the Assessment?
        2. The MCA Board has moved forward and contracted with 2 different Architectural Firms to propose and design what should be done to the TMCC existing Club House. Wounder what this will cost us? I thought they were advised in several meetings to contract with a Professional Sports Management Company as to what would be the bests BENEFICIAL and PROFITABLE approach before committing to another multimillion dollar debt to us, the MCA, instead of the dreams and wishes of the TMCC. When will it end?

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      2. mitchw12 Avatar
        mitchw12

        end any money to tmcc but the pool..tmcc want a clubhouse..they’re multi millionaires let them pay for it..as they’re the only ones can use it other than take out for the residents

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      3. Website Admin Avatar

        The MCA Board approved the 2025-26 budget and has posted it on the MCA website. Any delays in the mailing are likely just administrative.

        Work on the clubhouse is going to cost money. There is no getting around that and it is best that the MCA gets professional advice. BUT we believe that the most important thing is that the MCA makes an informed decision on what it is going to do with our golf courses FIRST and then figure out what the clubhouse needs are. The needs are very different for a private club model vs semi-private model vs sell to golf course operator. So getting architectural advice now is putting the cart before the horse.

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      4. Joe Avatar
        Joe

        Seems the MCA (at this point) has been ignoring requests from homeowners who want answers. Questions whether The TMCC should be paying the MCA, & whether the MCA should not be bending a financial knee to the TMCC, as well as electing members of the TMCC to the board, are serious issues. There should be no Conflict of Interest and therefore no member of the TMCC should be allowed to make decisions for MCA homeowners. Just my opinion.

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  5. lhaynesh2 Avatar

    Ending the flow of money, to a profit loosing independent renter, only makes sense. Making sense is a logical answer but the current MCA Board seems to have other plans.

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  6. Augusta Kairys Avatar
    Augusta Kairys

    Regarding the non-existent conflict of interest of MCA Board Members who are also members of The Meadows Country Club:  I am confident that a reasonable adjudicator of fact (if the blog argument were ever tried) would agree that the dual role of TMCC member and MCA Board Member is not a conflict of interest, not to mention that the anonymous blogger has never argued or estimated a dollar amount as to how the MCA Homeowners have been damaged or harmed.

    The posting on the blog recites:  “Conflict of interest can definitely be a complex and nuanced issue, and is always based on the particulars of the situation.”   That is the essence of a conflict of interest.  In this fact pattern, a conflict of interest would arise if an MCA Board Member had a personal financial interest or a material interest in a decision that would compromise their impartiality.  The anonymous blog author ignores the concept of materiality.

    An MCA Board Member who is a golf member pays significant dues to the club, in the range of $10,000 to $12,000 per year.  The HOA subsidy to TMCC is relatively small for an MCA Board Member/Homeowner.  Even if one were to agree that the subsidy is $600,000 per year, as stated by the anonymous blogger, a number that is grossly overstated, the annual cost to an MCA homeowner would be approximately $176 per year.  I think it is reasonable to assume that $176 (3-4 full tanks of gasoline) annually is not material to any MCA Board Member and would not sway their interest in maintaining the fabric of the community and the value of their own, and all homeowners’ real estate, making it reasonable to argue that there is no material conflict of interest.

    An MCA Board Member’s club dues and contributed services far outweigh any indirect benefit the Board member might receive as a benefit from an MCA subsidy, and there is no favorable treatment.  All homeowners, including non-club members receive access to amenities as part of the consideration for their $176 annual contribution.  It would be very difficult to secure a gym membership for $176 annually, not to mention pool access, restaurant privileges, reduced golf rates and pickleball.  While some may raise concerns, a reasonable community member would see $176 annually as a community investment/amentity use fee, rather than a financial gain for club members.

    Best practices address the dual role by being transparent and emphasizing independent judgement and the broader benefits to the community by having a private country club on campus.  All of the MCA Board members are open about their club affiliation – and it is obvious, especially given their continued, dedicated, service to our community, that maintaining our valuable assets and amenities and making The Meadows a better and desirable place to live for everyone is their mission, even though such service is frequently and unbelievably rudely dismissed and criticized by a vocal few.

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      In our post we ask for a new COI opinion based on today’s situation. It is clearly an area of concern for many MCA Homeowners and getting a relevant legal opinion would “resolve” the issue for all. We did not attempt to play lawyer to make the case and similarly we’re not going to respond to your “legal analysis”.

      We’ve conservatively estimated the annual subsidy at $2.4 million, not $600,000 (https://sarasotameadows.com/2024/12/20/tmcc-subsidy-is-huge/). Based on about 600 TMCC memberships that is $4,000 per membership annually. The median TMCC member pays annual dues of $4,413. $4,000 subsidy to a person paying $4,413 seems like a pretty substantial benefit for each member and all those in their TMCC social circle. It is reasonable for MCA Homeowners to have COI concerns for MCA Directors who are TMCC members.

      We assure you that it is NOT “obvious” The Meadows is better off with a private club. We would be pleased to see your business case demonstrating it is so (please read this article first: https://sarasotameadows.com/2024/12/27/green-space-property-values/).

      It is curious that despite your belief that there is no COI related to TMCC, you chose not to disclose that you are not only a TMCC member but the TMCC Vice-President.

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    2. lhaynesh2 Avatar

      I agree with the Administrations response to your letter. Thou your letter was well written, it like everything that comes from the TMCC, It is full of Smoke and Mirrors along with a lot of unstated facts and omissions. Meadows property Owners have retrieved copies of the dispersants of funds that exceed 1.8 Million plus in 2024, during document reviews of the MCA monthly files ( our right as owners). My math says somewhere between $500 and $650 per property going to the TMCC through various avenues would be a closer estimate. If I wanted to pay anything to the TMCC, which is private, I would Join. Good shot though Mrs. VP

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  7. rotor1851e Avatar
    rotor1851e

    Hello, I am a resident here in the Meadows. Can you send me the names of who you recommend for the board, I received my ballot yesterday and I am not able to find the email you sent with your recommendations, thanks Ernest F. Wilson

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    1. mitchw12 Avatar
      mitchw12

      I asked when paying mca dues that ONLY 600,000 was paid to tmcc fir Renaissance program..no other assistance provided unless property improvements that all owners are required to do..600,000 or 2 million?

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      1. Website Admin Avatar

        If we understand your question correctly, this article is our best description of
        1. The operating expenses MCA is paying on the leased assets ($540,000)
        2. The value of providing $8 million of assets to TMCC for $65,000. MCA is paying interest on loans and losing income on the cash is used on the purchase (and is no longer earning investment income). We CONSERVATIVELY estimated that at $400,000.
        3. TMCC is paying $65,000
        The sum of those amounts is $875,000 (excluding ongoing capital maintenance and improvements)

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      2. mitchw12 Avatar
        mitchw12

        so? Having tmcc is a losing proposition for residents..?/!

        so? TMCC’s private membership program reduces generating operating expenses and loss of money to pay off loans that MCA purchase of tmcc facilities

        so? Will the elimination of tmcc and having MCA hire an independent company to operate MCA facilitates without costing the MCA’S 4000 residents provide the solution for residents paying to subsidize in comparison the few members of a private club ?/!

        so? Simply.should the rental fee cover the costs residents are paying and losing and are they due to the way TMCC and MCA board has managed this facility?/!

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