Notes on Jan 22 MCA Townhall Meeting

Lots of credit to the MCA for holding the Townhall meeting. As an indicator of its success there was strong support for holding them more frequently than quarterly. Would be great to get another one in before the snowbirds leave in April.

LINK to Jan 22 MCA Townhall Meeting recording (also available through the Homeowner portal)

A large portion of the meeting was filled with passionate pleas from some Board members (Mark Pienkos, Tom Bondur, Chris Perone) and from several homeowners to reducing divisiveness. From the reactions of those in attendance, MCA Homeowners are unanimous in that goal. That is a great sentiment. But there is a big barrier we must overcome to get there: We cannot have informed, constructive, respectful discussions unless we know and agree on the facts.  

We cannot build ourselves back to a united community without truth and transparency. While we have a few Board members making headway on transparency, we have others who continue to mislead us. This empowers the status quo by making people believe “We (TMCC members) need you (MCA), and you need us”.  These false beliefs make it impossible to have rational, fact-based discussions. Our divisiveness will not end until we all understand the truth.
The two low-lights in this vein were:

Low-light 1: The MCA President (member of The Meadows Country Club) repeated one of her favorite misleading statements: TMCC has invested $28 million over the last 3 years. That sounds impressive, but is absolute nonsense. Those are just their normal business operating expenses, and TMCC have earned about $28 million of revenue while using the MCA Homeowners’ sports and dining complex for free (Footnote 1). In case there was any doubt, a Homeowner pointed out that TMCC’s fixed assets have only gone up only $1.4 million from 2018 to 2023 ($280,000 per year). That’s a long way from $28 million of “investment”.

Regarding operating expenses, in the last year MCA Homeowners have become responsible for paying about $800,000 per year of expenses previously paid by TMCC:

When this shift started last year, the Treasurer indicated it was just different administration of the RAP fee (which would be fine if disclosed that way). But now that these expenses are buried in MCA’s $5.7 million budget, the MCA Treasurer flatly denies we are paying these TMCC business expenses.

Low-light 2: The Board’s Aviva Liaison (TMCC member) showed up very late in the townhall meeting just to passionately perpetuate a false premise: TMCC saves our property values. That is a cornerstone of TMCC’s negotiating position but is absolute nonsense. If you haven’t already, please read our post on Green Space & Property Values. The key points are:

  • Our property values are primarily enhanced by green space.
  • NO ONE is advocating developing homes in place of golf holes.
  • MCA owns the golf courses (not TMCC) and they can be operated without TMCC.

As a past TMCC President recently stated: TMCC is merely a vessel that currently operates MCA’s golf courses. TMCC DOES NOT keep our green space open or maintain our property values. The MCA does that and will continue to do so.

There ARE Board members who are fighting for transparency, truth, and all MCA Homeowner interests. They are making some important steps forward. We need to rapidly continue down that path to become united. We cannot continually be distracted by misleading information.

There was unanimous support for continuing these Townhall Meetings. We agree. We hope they will include even more truth and transparency, and less false information speeches from MCA Board members.

Please share this with your friends and neighbors, and encourage them to subscribe. Contact us at ForTheMeadows@SarasotaMeadows.com

Footnote 1  – This footnote is from our 2024 MCA Annual Meeting Recap.  
MCA states (parroting TMCC info) that over a 3-year period “the Club has invested over $28,000,00 to operate and maintain the facilities”. MCA and TMCC repeatedly highlight how much they are paying in normal business expenses, implying that we are fortunate that TMCC is paying the expenses, otherwise MCA Homeowners would have to pay the expenses through MCA assessments. This is SO misleading.

  1. Paying business expenses is NOT INVESTING. When you fill your fridge with groceries, or pay your electricity bill, are you “investing” in your home? Of course not.
  2. MCA/TMCC never disclose that TMCC is receiving $28 million in revenue from using our assets for free. They only ever mention the expense part, implying MCA Homeowners would have to pay those expenses (without offsetting revenue), and our MCA assessments would go up by $9 million annually.
  3. MCA/TMCC never mention TMCC’s actual bottom-line results, despite TMCC’s legal obligation to disclose their financial results to the public via the Form 990. TMCC delay and make it as difficult as possible for the public to obtain this information, meeting the technical requirement but not the spirit of the law. The exact opposite of transparency. Reminder that you can go to TMCC’s office and they are legally required to provide you with a copy of their Form 990 that you can take with you. Unfortunately TMCC has been able to legally delay the disclosure of their 2023 results from May 2024 until May 2025 (IRS allowed deferrals).

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18 responses to “Notes on Jan 22 MCA Townhall Meeting”

  1. Anomous Avatar
    Anomous

    Is the MCA President up for elections this year? Does the Board select the president or does the community?

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      Marilyn Maleckas was acclaimed as a candidate last year (there were only 3 candidates for 3 positions). She has 2 years remaining of her second 3 year term.
      Following the Annual Meeting, after the 3 newly elected Board members are seated, the 9 Board members elect the four executive roles: President, VP, Treasurer, Secretary. Usually the President only stays in that position for 2 years, and commonly the VP is elected to the President position. But it is up to the 9 Board members to decide each year.

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      1. Leon Miller Avatar
        Leon Miller

        I understood the treasurer stating that one option would be to sell the golf courses to a golf course company, such as happened at Legacy being sold to a company that owns numerous golf courses in Sarasota. Legacy now has a $75,000 entrance fee. Heck we could lease the courses in such an operation and get paid percentage of the revenue. That really would be the best of all worlds.

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      2. Website Admin Avatar

        Leasing a golf course has a lot of challenges, some of which we are experiencing now: The MCA is responsible for all capital investments, but the lessor gets all the benefits. Our situation is atypical as our average expected capital costs are $1.8 million a year, and we’re paying $800,000 of the operating expenses, but only getting $65k of lease payments in return.

        Regarding the “sell to a golf course operator” option: The Treasurer stated that we need to re-do the clubhouse in order to sell the assets. We STRONGLY disagree. Whatever the MCA builds is unlikely to fully suite the needs of the buyer and we would not recoup what we spend.

        The MCA MUST determine how it is going to utilize its golf courses FIRST, then determine what to do with the clubhouse.

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  2. Sandra Strauss Avatar

    What a blessing you to Meadows residents for providing needed facts through this blog. Especially now with such critical decisions that need to be made regarding the use of space and the Meadows’ financial future, your time, energy and analysis is appreciated. Special thanks as well to Board members, Mark Pienkos, Tom Bondur, and Chris Perone, for your commitment to respecting the concerns and interests of residents to ensure wise and financially sound decisions.

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  3. Pete Avatar
    Pete

    I wish we could get rid of TMCC altogether. Let some golf course operators buy it, own it, manage it and run it to make money. It will still be in the Meadows. Surely there is some successful golf course operators out there. I’m tired of paying for a poorly managed money pit.

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      This approach has merits.
      It would be critical for the MCA to ensure our green space remains maintained private parkland if some golf holes cease to be operated. This would be done through the terms of sale. Other HOA’s have likely dealt with this scenario so there are likely well established options.

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  4. buffnitty Avatar
    buffnitty

    What are the 2025 Membership numbers? Please compare to 2024 member numbers so we can see a trend beginning?

    Is our MCCC tenant going under or gaining strength?

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      We don’t currently have any data on 2025 memberships yet. But we do have some point-in-time data.
      As of June 2024 TMCC was down 46 members + category downgrades reducing annual dues by $153,000. That was BEFORE the hurricanes or the pickleball announcement debacle.
      As of Oct 2024 TMCC had a net loss of 72 members and had 21 downgrades, all effective Jan 2025. Based on the July data we estimate annual dues would be down $240,000.
      The MCA Treasurer said annual membership fee prepayments were down $100,000.
      And we know that TMCC has an extra $250,000 cash outflow coming to repay the loans.
      ALL indicators are that TMCC will have a worse year. The MCA needs to make alternate plans for managing the golf courses not plans for replacing the clubhouse.

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      1. princejoyfully09c031360a Avatar
        princejoyfully09c031360a

        The cash flow forecast for 2025 is pretty simple with the decline in membership. At the time the loan was made to TMCC I suspected that the club could not repay the loan when it matured and, if it did so during the slow summer months, it will have to request another loan almost immediately–with or without another hurricane. Liabilities exceed assets and I’m not sure that what they claim are TMCC assets might not belong to MCA at the end of the day. We need to see the auditor’s report and covering opinion vis-a-vis “going concern.” The financials on the website clearly indicate that for the past 4 years TMCC has been insolvent by any definition of accounting. See ASU No. 2013-07.

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  5. lhaynesh2 Avatar

    The longer we (MCA) wait for planning, legal preparation and processing of the Eviction Process of the TMCC, the larger our losses will be. Remember we are subsidising the TMCC over a Million Dollars a year as it is, they have a large $250,000 short term loan for payroll (from the MCA) to start making payments on, their income and memberships are declining and at some point they must start making their conveniently forgotten Annual Lease Payments to the MCA. Is it possible that these will all be another debt silently forgiven by our MCA Board?

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  6. Barb Merten Avatar
    Barb Merten

    Thanks for all your unending efforts to achieve transparency and truth for we home owners!! Barb Merten

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  7. Michelle A Johnston Avatar
    Michelle A Johnston

    In honor of truth and transparency, all MCA Board members who participated in the Town Hall respect open communications, not just the three listed in your comments.

    Michelle Johnston

    majohnston2018@gmail.com

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    1. lhaynesh2 Avatar

      Trust is something that is built and earned and lost over time by a persons actions. Once lost it is very hard to regain. My Trust Jury is still out on the majority of our MCA board. It will take more than 1 meeting, them or you assuring us verbally that we we can trust them, to build that trust of true transparency.

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      1. Michelle A Johnston Avatar
        Michelle A Johnston

        Name one time when I didn’t speak the truth and wasn’t trustworthy.

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      2. Website Admin Avatar

        We suspect that much of the distrust has resulted from many false and misleading statements by the MCA President and Treasurer. As the Board’s TMCC liaisons they have also assisted TMCC in keeping their info from the Board and Homeowners. And until recently they did most of the speaking for the Board, so the whole Board got painted with the same brush (we have done that). We’re glad to hear you are on Team Truth and Transparency, and look forward to hearing more from you at Board meetings.

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  8. princejoyfully09c031360a Avatar
    princejoyfully09c031360a

    I’m a former banker (Citicorp Investment Bank and Continental Bank which was absorbed into the Bank of America), as well as a receiver and liquidator. I’ve reviewed the financial statements that you posted online and have the following observations vis-a-vis TMCC:

    1. For the past 4 years TMCC has been insolvent. This arises when an entity’s liabilities exceed its assets. Curiously, this was never brought to the attention of the residents by the MCA.

    2. I would like to see the auditor’s report on TMCC because I suspect that the auditor gave a “qualified opinion” about the TMCC not being “a going concern.” I am also curious as to why the directors of the MCA did not bring this to the attention of the residents.

    3. TMCC lists about $3.88M of assets but my impression from the MCA board is that the MCA owns the MCA and its assets. I would like to know what those “assets” are and how they are being depreciated.

    4. There is no sources and uses statement with the financial statements. This part of the financial statements is a dive into the cash flow of TMCC so we can see the exact sources and uses of funds.

    5. I haven’t seen the 2024 financials yet, but a quick analysis of the data available with the rapid decline in membership would seem to indicate that the $250K loan made by the MCA to TMCC either cannot be repaid on schedule or as soon as it is repaid and TMCC goes into the slower summer months, it will return to the MCA for another loan.

    6. I’m flummoxed by the rather slow pace with which a restructuring plan is being developed.

    7. I reviewed the attorney’s 2017 letter pertaining to “conflict of interest” by the directors. Because 2 MCA directors also sit on the board of TMCC and withheld information from “the shareholders” (i.e., the residents) under the pretense of a confidentiality agreement, I would question the fact that there is not a conflict of interest under Florida law because, as the attorney asserts in his opening paragraph, the directors have a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders/residents.

    8. I don’t see selling TMCC as being a viable option for the residents. There are other ways to fix TMCC and ensure that it becomes viable. I shared a letter to this effect with the MCA board back on 11/11/24. There has been no follow-up by anyone from the board on that letter. It also appears to me that Marilyn Maleckas should not serve on the committee developing a turnaround plan because there is a blatant conflict of interest and possible breach of fiduciary duty to the residents.

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    1. buffnitty Avatar
      buffnitty

      Richard Sommerfield definitely has the credentials, experience and common sense judgement to be on the committee – probably run it. His post is so refreshing and to the point. All we seem to have gotten so far from our MCA board is threats of property values declining and/or development eating up our green space.

      Please reprint his analysis in The Meadowword.

      Please MCA board respond to each of his points.

      Loan Repayment: Have the guarantors pony up at each repayment point to make the MCA whole.

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