TMCC subsidy is HUGE

In a recent post we provided an analogy of the lease of MCA’s sports complex assets to The Meadows Country Club. If you haven’t read that please click the link and give it a read. It will be good context for this post.

This analysis reflects changes from the MCA’s recent announcement that it would take over operating the fitness center and pool.

First, MCA Homeowners are paying for about $540,000/year of TMCC’s normal operating expenses (property taxes, insurance and MCA assessments on the leased assets). (footnote 1)

Second, MCA Homeowners are out at least $400,000/year for the $8 million of sports and dining complex assets it leases to TMCC. Any reasonable person or business would expect to be paid an appropriate amount for the use of those assets. We’ve assumed a very conservative 5% return, which on $8 million would be $400,000/year (footnote 2)

Third, MCA Homeowners are/will be paying an average of $1.5 million/year for capital maintenance and replacement. The lease requires MCA to pay for all capital maintenance and replacement over $10,000. This is both the largest, least transparent, and most difficult to quantify cost.

In asset-intensive businesses like golf courses, tennis, and dining, the business will have large infrequent expenditures to maintain and replace assets as a result of normal wear and tear. Examples are the $2 million MCA paid in 2021 to refurbish the Regency Room in the clubhouse and the Meadows/Members golf course. The MCA Board recently disclosed that our clubhouse building needs $3.6 million to get it back up to standard. We’ve heard repeatedly that the Highlands course has to be re-done from tee to green. There will undoubtedly be more to come.

How much does a facility like ours need to generate annually to cover these costs over the long-term? Based industry data collected by Club Benchmarking, TMCC should be collecting $1.8 million per year for capital maintenance and repairs. Per their 2022 financials, TMCC collected about $300,000. That means the $1.5 million shortfall has to be paid by MCA Homeowners per the terms of the lease.

That is a big number and there have been “hints” of big expenses coming from TMCC and MCA leadership (more on this in an upcoming post). We won’t see expenditures of that amount every year, we will see larger expenditures every few years (or longer). (footnote 3)

What is MCA’s actual compensation under the lease with TMCC? For the first 6 years of the leases, TMCC paid $10.00/ year. Under the current 17-month lease, TMCC is paying MCA $65,000/year.

In summary, MCA’s subsidy of TMCC is/will be:

$540,000 + $400,000 + $1,500,000 – $65,000 = $2,375,000 PER YEAR

TMCC insiders know this very well. It is why some TMCC members said the MCA was going to be TMCC’s “piggy-bank” when MCA bought the assets 2018.

In order for TMCC to become self-sustaining (increase income by $2.4 million) it would need to either:
1. Raise all membership, cart and green fees by 40% AND not lose any members or public play.
2. More than DOUBLE their annual Gold or Platinum members (they currently have 139 and would need another 160)

Please share this information with your friends and neighbors, and ask them to vote for new MCA Board members who will focus on MCA Homeowner interests, not TMCC private club member interests.

Contact us at ForTheMeadows@SarasotaMeadows.com

Footnotes (the details behind statements above)

(1) $540,000 per year operating subsidy

From 2020 to 2023 MCA was directly paying $600,000 to TMCC. This provided little benefit to MCA owners and no incremental cost to TMCC. But at least it was visible and somewhat transparent.

In 2024 MCA began paying $416,000 of property taxes + insurance of TMCC and burying it in MCA’s expenses, with the balance paid in cash to TMCC ($184,000 in 2024). This did have the benefit of MCA making sure the insurance and property taxes were paid up, but the MCA President spun this as the fee dropping from $600,000 to $184,000. Maybe technically true but highly misleading and incomplete. The MCA’s budgeted insurance cost for 2025-26 has increased by about 1/3rd (not due to this change) so we are estimating that the cost of insurance related to the leased assets has gone up $70,000. With that increase TMCC operating costs paid by MCA are estimated at $416,000 + $70,000 = $486,000.

In 2024, the new asset lease dropped the requirement for TMCC to pay the MCA assessment on the leased assets. This is estimated at $50,000.

$486,000 + $50,000 = $536,000. We’ll round that to $540,000 for simplicity.

The MCA President and Treasurer present this as “in lieu of the Renaissance Access fee” but with the MCA now operating the pool and fitness center, the only benefit MCA Homeowners now get is 25% off the Highlands and Groves course + ability to play the Meadows/Members course on the 3rd Saturday of the month after noon at full rate. There is no longer a façade of getting something in return. It is purely a subsidy.

Summary: MCA Homeowners are paying $540,000 of what would be normal operating expenses for any other company in The Meadows (or the lessee would need to compensate the lessor for these costs).

(2) $400,000 per year for use of sports complex assets

MCA leases $8 million of sports complex assets to TMCC ($6 million for the original asset purchase + $2 million of upgrades in 2021(?)). How much should MCA be compensated for the use of the assets?

You could look at it from an investment return perspective. For this type of property and risk 5% would be a very low rate of return.

You could look at it from a carrying cost perspective and calculate the interest on borrowing. MCA has been paying 4.25% interest. We are fortunate it is this low. It will likely be higher over the life of the loans.

5% is a very conservative return expectation/lost revenue/interest paid. Maybe 10% or more would be more appropriate, but even with this very conservative assumption, the amount of the total subsidy is HUGE. Debating a more precise amount is just a distraction to the more important discussion of how to eliminate these costs for MCA Homeowners.

Now that TMCC members will be using assets operated by MCA (pool and fitness facility), TMCC should by paying MCA for access to those facilities by non-resident members. But we haven’t included that here.

Summary: $8 million * 5% = $400,000 per year in investment return/lost revenue/interest paid.

(3) $1,500,000 per year for capital maintenance and replacement (“CM&R”)

Large asset-intensive businesses like golf courses, tennis clubs, and dining facilities need to be able to fund large infrequent expenditures of significant maintenance of their assets or replacement of them. Sometimes significant maintenance is the right choice, but most assets need to be replaced at some point (even golf course grass in Florida!). Not doing maintenance will ultimately lead to an earlier asset replacement. Due to lack of funds, low maintenance has been TMCC’s approach for a decade or more.

Club Benchmarking is an organization that aggregates data from clubs, analyzes it and sells the findings to clubs. It is a great way for organizations to understand how they stack up. This Club Benchmarking video presentation articulates their findings on capital planning. Here are the key items from the video that are relevant to this discussion:

  1. The best indicator of a club’s success is how much it collects/invests for CM&R. (discussion starts around 3:00 in the video, with conclusions around 9:00) The best clubs collect enough to spend on “Aspirational Capital” (additions and improvements to the facilities). But clubs have to cover at least their “Obligatory Capital” needs (maintain and replace current facilities).
  2. The average club collects “capital income” equal to 18% of their operating revenues (starts around 11:00 in the video) to spend on CM&R. This generally covers on Obligatory Capital, not Aspirational Capital. TMCC has stated recently that they generate $10 million of revenues (MCA has said the same). Based on this, if TMCC was an “average” club, they should be collecting $1.8 million for CM&R: $10 million * 18% = $1.8 million. The top clubs collect capital income of over 40% (a lot of it likely through initiation fees). The very bottom clubs collect around 3% (this is exactly what TMCC collects).

This is a great video if you can invest an hour in watching it.

This is the basis of the $1.8 million amount required annually for CM&R. Again, one could quibble about the 18% amount, but the need to spend significant funds over the long term on CM&R is not debatable.

Per TMCC’s 2022 financial results, they collected $285,646 (pg 9) which we’ll round to $300,000 for simplicity.

If $1.8 million is required per year, and TMCC is collecting $300,000, that leaves a shortfall of $1.5 million which MCA Homeowners will need to pay per year on average. Most TMCC and MCA leadership acknowledge that CM&R funds will come from MCA Homeowners (the MCA President claims TMCC will pay for the Highlands capital improvements but that is not possible).


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29 responses to “TMCC subsidy is HUGE”

  1. edwardzawacki7 Avatar
    edwardzawacki7

    startling read….thank you for the in depth analysis…I can’t help but wonder is this a deliberate action by the board or one of lack of understanding based on trust of others recommendations.

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      Motivations are a mystery to us as well. But we do know that lack of understanding is no longer a valid possibility (most Board members are subscribers to this website)

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  2. David Boone Avatar
    David Boone

    I have owned several different properties in the Meadows over the past 25 years, both condos and single family home. The golf course looks like there is deferred maintenance and is starting to remind me of Palm Aire or Bent Tree. I realize we had several storms this summer; however, the entry off of 17th street looks terrible. As the old saying goes “You only get one chance to make a first impression”. The Meadows is old and looks like it!

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  3. rmalmasco Avatar
    rmalmasco

    I previously commented that the last President of TMCC before the land/debt assumption by the MCA (Gordon Cummings) said that TMCC could only justify “18 maybe 27 holes of golf”. The membership at the time was around 180. Now the membership is 160+ and we have 54 holes.

    TMCC have had plenty of time to run a “not for profit”.

    My wife and I are 20+ year residents who have seen our dues more than double for no tangible benefit. One of the factors that we considered when choosing to move to The Meadows was that we would not be mandated to join a “Club”. Now we are being forced to pay for a club which we do not want to join (for many reasons) and have no recourse.

    We are currently being “taxed without representation”.

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  4. rmalmasco Avatar
    rmalmasco

    This is from Fla. 720.303 14)

    It should add transparency.

    (b)1. By January 1, 2025, an association that has 100 or more parcels shall post the following documents on its website or make available such documents through an application that can be downloaded on a mobile device:

    a. The articles of incorporation of the association and each amendment thereto.

    b. The recorded bylaws of the association and each amendment thereto.

    c. The declaration of covenants and a copy of each amendment thereto.

    d. The current rules of the association.

    e. A list of all current executory contracts or documents to which the association is a party or under which the association or the parcel owners have an obligation or responsibility and, after bidding for the related materials, equipment, or services has closed, a list of bids received by the association within the past year.

    f. The annual budget required by subsection (6) and any proposed budget to be considered at the annual meeting.

    g. The financial report required by subsection (7) and any monthly income or expense statement to be considered at a meeting.

    h. The association’s current insurance policies.

    i. The certification of each director as required by s. 720.3033(1)(a).

    j. All contracts or transactions between the association and any director, officer, corporation, firm, or association that is not an affiliated homeowners’ association or any other entity in which a director of an association is also a director or an officer and has a financial interest.

    k. Any contract or document regarding a conflict of interest or possible conflict of interest as provided in ss. 468.436(2)(b)6. and 720.3033(2).

    l. Notice of any scheduled meeting of members and the agenda for the meeting, as required by s. 720.306, at least 14 days before such meeting. The notice must be posted in plain view on the homepage of the website or application, or on a separate subpage of the website or application labeled “Notices” which is conspicuously visible and linked from the homepage. The association shall also post on its website or application any document to be considered and voted on by the members during the meeting or any document listed on the meeting agenda at least 7 days before the meeting at which such document or information within the document will be considered.

    m. Notice of any board meeting, the agenda, and any other document required for such meeting as required by subsection (3), which must be posted on the website or application no later than the date required for notice under subsection (3).

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    1. edwardzawacki7 Avatar
      edwardzawacki7

      I appreciate this info but,

      Can you please explain this in a few simple bullet points that clarify your perspective.

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      1. rmalmasco Avatar
        rmalmasco

        My perspective is very simple.

        There is not enough golf membership to justify a 54 hole golf club. The MCA board has a very blinkered view that golf is the only way. They must be “forced” to look at other ways to use the property. I use the word “forced” because left on their own the MCA board will still be trying to work out what to do for years to come because of their misguided belief in golf.

        Their M.O. is to hide and obfuscate matters wherever possible. Publishing the required information (by Jan 1 2025) online will open many of our neighbours eyes. We have neighbours who are golf club members who believed until last month that the TMCC was doing really well !!

        Finally, each board member has a fiduciary responsibility to ALL members. They are not being responsible to ALL members. During the initial few years of acquiring the golf club they had to take some measures which were painful but had to be done. Now they are making decisions and taking actions which upset the vast majority of MCA members (including tennis members of TMCC). All to preserve a failed golf club.

        Many say, get involved, run for the board. It is almost impossible to run, let alone win, with the current selection process.

        Why is a TMCC member a “liaison” to Aviva (who has a large block of votes)? Aviva can’t make their own minds up? Why are candidates disproportionately TMCC members? Why have genuine MCA members who have tried to run been hounded and their reputations besmirched?

        There is a conflict of interest and the majority of the MCA board are acting in concert to benefit less than 5% of the MCA membership.

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      2. wastelandloudly754f253984 Avatar
        wastelandloudly754f253984

        Absolutely agree. This is what I’ve been saying for some time now. The Meadows residents who pay golf on numerous courses in the Sarasota area know that having three 18 holes golf courses in one community is not sustainable.

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      3. wastelandloudly754f253984 Avatar
        wastelandloudly754f253984

        Absolutely agree. This is what I’ve been saying for some time now. The Meadows residents who pay golf on numerous courses in the Sarasota area know that having three 18 holes golf courses in one community is not sustainable.

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      4. wastelandloudly754f253984 Avatar
        wastelandloudly754f253984

        Absolutely agree. This is what I’ve been saying for some time now. The Meadows residents who pay golf on numerous courses in the Sarasota area know that having three 18 holes golf courses in one community is not sustainable.

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      5. edwardzawacki7 Avatar
        edwardzawacki7

        thanks for your reply….

        I appreciate and agree with your observations and questions.

        I know something has to be done to change this perpetual course of action toward maintaining TMCC.

        I was hoping your listing the various parts of the fla 720.303 14 had some specific action residents can take to stregnthen our position that the MCA board ‘is not acting responsibly in representing homeowners interests.

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  5. mitchw12 Avatar
    mitchw12

    start with getting rid of the “marshalls” ?? There’s hardly any players to marshall….just an indication of the lack of urgency to do anything..

    if tmcc can’t manage without residents money and don’t want to include 4000 residents access and use ..then what do we do

    You’ve delineated the costs. The inadequate return

    the forecast is depressing plus lack of any changes to improve by tmcc is alarming and insulting to residents with their years of work and sacrifice

    get a consultant and find a way to be fair to residents

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  6. lhaynesh2 Avatar

    Amen from the Choir. After watching the last several years of the decline of maintenance and overall visual appearance of all property in the TMCC managed areas and now similar appearances starting with in The Meadows as a whole. All I have heard is give the TMCC more Money, they are Important to us, they will help increase your property value, we have to preserve them for our best interest and on and on. Quite the opposite is happening. POP THE PIMPLE and move on. The TMCC can have a club with limited priority use but they will pay a fee to use and all property owners in the meadows will have expanded privileges at our facilities. Hire a true professional company to restore and manage our community to compete with the surrounding similar communities that have converted to semi private.

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      In a nutshell: TMCC is the BIGGEST BARRIER to having successful golf courses, it is not the solution.

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  7. wastelandloudly754f253984 Avatar
    wastelandloudly754f253984

    I will say it again: hold back your annual MCA payments, until the issue of the TMCC has been properly addressed.
    Otherwise, nothing will be done. We can bitch and complain, write tons of correspondence, attend all the meetings and at the end we won’t move an inch forward.

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    1. edwardzawacki7 Avatar
      edwardzawacki7

      can residents actually hold annual payments….if so please describe how.

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      1. Website Admin Avatar

        This is how it would play out: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/florida-hoa-coa-foreclosures.html
        A review of our governing documents would reveal what the MCA’s policies are in terms of interest and penalties (limited by whatever the Florida 720 statute allows)

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      2. edwardzawacki7 Avatar
        edwardzawacki7

        Thanks for the link…

        Ends that suggestion by some.

        Ez

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      3. Website Admin Avatar

        Maybe. Or a few hundred MCA homeowners might need to be willing to incur a fine to express how strongly they feel about the matter. If enough homeowners took this step it would be a challenge for the MCA to take legal action on all. We hope it doesn’t get to that.

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      4. dutifullydifferent48a92dd892 Avatar
        dutifullydifferent48a92dd892

        Humbly suggest if enough residents feel strongly about this they pool money and hire a Florida attorney who specializes in HOA law. Doesn’t mean a lawsuit necessarily, but could effectuate bringing two sides together, formalize resident concerns (likely a letter to the board) and hopefully more of a seat at the table. Hope everyone has a wonderful holiday.

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      5. Website Admin Avatar

        We tried that in the spring: https://sarasotameadows.com/2024/04/17/legal-demand-letter-sent-to-mca/ The MCA Board threatened to sue for slander. And they have unlimited legal funds (our MCA assessments).

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  8. […] our last post we wrote about how MUCH MCA Homeowners are subsidizing TMCC. In this post we’ll write about how MANY benefit from this. The best way to view this is by […]

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  9. lilipie Avatar

    where is Tony Johnson in all this??

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      He reports to the TMCC Board which looks out for the best interests of TMCC members. We’re speaking for/to MCA Homeowners who have very different goals (best use of the assets for homeowners)

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  10. […] green park space. We believe there are better options that don’t cost MCA Homeowners the $2.4 million per year we are currently paying. TMCC is actually the BIGGEST BARRIER to running the golf courses […]

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  11. pammymcintyre Avatar
    pammymcintyre

    My question is about insurance. If the MCA covers the property of TMCC, is it correct that the storm damage to the club dining area will be covered by the MCA policy? I was told that the holdup for repairs is due to the negotiations between the insurance company and the MCA?

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      Re: your comment “the property of TMCC”, remember that TMCC doesn’t own any property. MCA owns it all and TMCC leases the property. MCA does hold all the insurance on our property. We heard the same thing as you regarding insurance being the delay in repairs. Here’s what we suspect is going on: since the MCA also came to understand that the clubhouse requires at least $3.6 million of refurbishment/replacement, they are trying to decide on whether to spend the insurance $ on repair of the building or replacement of the building. Back in 2017 the TMCC President stated that the current building was built for a much larger membership size and a smaller building would be better for their membership size back then. We’ve heard rumors of TMCC representatives proposing MUCH MUCH larger amounts to give TMCC members a better private club experience (all paid for by MCA Homeowners)

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  12. […] and the MCA have made it exceedingly difficult to understand what is happening in The Meadows and the fact that MCA Homeowners are paying these subsidies. And they continue to hide the true costs to MCA Homeowners. Frankly, without our research and […]

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  13. […] Per the preamble, this legal opinion was on a very specific set of circumstances that are no longer at issue. At that time the Directors held equity shares with minimal value. Today the TMCC member Directors benefit as members from MCA’s significant ongoing subsidization of TMCC.  […]

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