Notes from Dec 12 MCA Board Meeting

A video of the meeting is not yet available but when one is we will add a link here. Our comments below only cover certain items we think are noteworthy.

We don’t recall if it was ever formally explained at a prior Board meeting, but the Aviva Liasson (Jerry Lazar, who is an MCA resident and TMCC member) is now a Board member, but does not vote on any matters. This is likely the result of Articles of Incorporation, Article VIII, paragraph 5(b) which states that if any owner’s property value is more than 5% of the Meadows OR Highlands, they may have a representative on the Board. It is odd to us that the standard is 5% of Meadows OR Highlands, rather than MCA as a whole. This dates back to at least the 1992 restated Articles of Incorporation (the MCA does not provide the original 1976 Articles of Incorporation on its website). Aviva’s property value is less than 5% of the whole of the MCA, so having their own Board member seems like more influence than they should have. The Board has the power to amend this if it chose to.

An MCA Homeowner attempted to make a point of order, that MCA Homeowner comments should be a part of the discussion of the agenda items, not after the Board has discussed and decided on the agenda items. The MCA Homeowner seemed to provide support on their mobile phone to the Board liaison, but the President chose to proceed with the meeting in their normal fashion. Will be very interesting if MCA Homeowners can contribute to the discussion PRIOR to Board decisions, rather than only afterwards. We’d be happy to publish the details if anyone could send them to us at ForTheMeadows@SarasotaMeadows.com

During his presentation of the proposed MCA budget for 2025-2026, the Treasurer noted that the MCA will take over responsibility for operating the fitness center and pool (both owned by MCA) from TMCC. The plan is to put MCA Homeowners on equal footing with TMCC members when it comes to use of the facilities and related fitness classes. The stated estimated cost of operating these facilities was stated at $223,000. It was noted that this will require a change in the lease and details have yet to be worked out. Since 2020, MCA has been paying TMCC for access to these facilities, as TMCC was paying the operating costs. Now that MCA is paying the operating costs, it would be appropriate for TMCC to pay MCA for access for their non-resident members (TMCC members who are MCA residents would already have paid access as residents). We understand that there are about 400 non-resident TMCC members, 600 resident TMCC members, and 1,600 Renaissance Access cardholders. On this basis TMCC should be covering at least 15% of the operating costs (400 / (400 + 600 + 1600) = 15%) and should contribute a proportional amount of the capital costs as well.

Board member Chris Perone asked that management look into a policy to allow MCA homeowners to rent rooms in the MCLWF. Management will look into the pros/cons/challenges and propose a policy in this area.

Board member Chris Perone made a motion for the Board to commit to a Town Hall meeting in January. Date and Time to be determined. The motion passed unanimously. This is an important step towards more transparency and genuine constructive dialogue.

Board member Mark Pienkos made a motion for the Board to create a Strategic Planning Committee to make recommendations to the MCA Board as to the future of TMCC following hurricane damage. The committee would meet in open session and report their recommendations to the entire community. It would not have any decision-making power, only make recommendations to the MCA Board. It was proposed to be comprised of 3 MCA Board members (who are not TMCC members), 3 TMCC Board members, and 3 members of the MCA community (who are not TMCC members).

After some discussion, Board member Ned Boston made a motion to amend the above motion to remove the stipulation that 6 committee members not be TMCC members. This amendment was passed unanimously. After more discussion the amended motion was passed by a majority (7 For, 2 Against).

Stepping back, it seemed like there was an expectation that the committee would be assessing the future of the CLUBHOUSE (there were references to architect’s plans). But the motion was regarding the future of TMCC. “The future of TMCC” is clearly outside the responsibility of the MCA Board who are responsible for the MCA’s sports and dining complex assets, but don’t make decisions on TMCC (who are the current lessors of those assets). If the expectation is that the committee will consider the future of MCA’s sports and dining complex assets, we are supportive of that. The Board needs to clarify the mandate of the committee. As the person who made the motion, Mark Pienkos is likely the best person to do so.

The issue of whether MCA Board members who are TMCC members have a conflict of interest on TMCC related matters continues to be a point of contention. Comments from MCA President and VP on the legal opinion they’ve received seem to address whether TMCC member involvement meets the statutory standard of CRIMINAL conflict of interest. The MCA Board needs to have conflict of interest policy with a standard much lower than criminal conflict of interest. There will be a future blog post on this. If anyone wanted to make a Record Inspection request to obtain a copy of the opinion, we’d be pleased to receive a copy of it at ForTheMeadows@SarasotaMeadows.com

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13 responses to “Notes from Dec 12 MCA Board Meeting”

  1. thoroughlycleverb34e2c4766 Avatar
    thoroughlycleverb34e2c4766

    This is so incredibly helpful

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  2. neztul Avatar
    neztul

    Thanks again for your work in pressuring the MCA Board to become transparent in governing The Meadows and in its conflicted deals with the failed Meadows Country Club.
    Since you have posted information on these topics over the last year or so, the MCA Board has had to recognize the huge frustration many of the non-members of the club feel about increasing annual assessments to support a private club offering no benefits to many of us. There has been reluctance and hostility to allowing participation by non-club members in decision making that affects our entire community. The record speaks for itself.

    Mary Ann Lutzen
    5223 Everwood Run
    (Resident since 2009)

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  3. lisi5f0a56d8f76 Avatar
    lisi5f0a56d8f76

    Thanks as always for a great recap.

    I do not understand the Aviva connection. Are they on Meadows property? What value do they bring?

    Why are they involved?
    thanks

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      Yes, Aviva is within The Meadows property. They are the largest and highest value property in The Meadows. So they pay the highest MCA assessment (around $220,000) and also have the most votes in MCA Board elections.

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    2. Gail Sussman-Miller Avatar
      Gail Sussman-Miller

      Aviva offers for our residents to attend their events and vice versa. Many of our residents live there.

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      1. Website Admin Avatar

        That is certainly true. And they have a huge influence in our elections. Our concern is that in addition to getting to vote in MCA Board elections like every other homeowner (but with the biggest “home” by far), they ALSO get to appoint their own Board member (non-voting).

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  4. lisi5f0a56d8f76 Avatar
    lisi5f0a56d8f76

    Thanks as always for a great recap.

    I do not understand the Aviva connection. Are they on Meadows property? What value do they bring?

    Why are they involved?
    thanks

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  5. lhaynesh2 Avatar

    If we were not subsidising the TMC with MCA money, we would not need the MCA Fees that are annually charged to Aviva. These fees should not be construed as giving them the right to have more votes than me. The MCA voting should be for residents not Corporations and 1 vote per property title. It makes it harder to cheat. I live in a single family home with more votes than a Condo or villa owner. This is not right basing votes and power on the biggest dog wins concept. Keep it simple and harder to cheat and camouflage issues in any vote.

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  6. dutifullydifferent48a92dd892 Avatar
    dutifullydifferent48a92dd892

    Thank you for passing this along and I share collective concerns.

    At the end of the day, it seems that the (1) business model needs to fundamentally change and the (2) the facilities need an influx of capital (or shut down).  And doing only one of the two will result in the same situation again down the road. 

    I know this idea has been floated in the past but given the state of clubhouse, perhaps revisiting bringing in a golf resort developer (incentivizing to an extent) to build a boutique hotel and more resort amenities centered around golf would be the best of a bad situation — the country club membership model gets to live on in some manner, likely akin to members at a resort (free greens fees, events) the HOA can back off managing the country club, and ultimately, the new resort amenities make resident life better and raise values. Just a thought, high level of course and the devil, of course, is in the details. Happy Holidays!

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    1. Website Admin Avatar

      When the MCA acquired the sports and dining complex assets, the MCA promised to continue pursuing the planned development opportunities (which had already been re-zoned for about 180 units and a small office building), but there is no indication that has happened. Would be worthwhile to have a committee pick that back up and run with it. Having more units and less debt would benefit the community.

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      1. wastelandloudly754f253984 Avatar
        wastelandloudly754f253984

        if the property owners at the Meadows are powerless in deciding the fate of our community due to the unfair votes distribution, there is only one thing that the MCA Board would understand: stop paying our annual fees for a while.

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